Scarlet Witch Turbo Draw and Build HEROIC clearing

were you using turn the tide with hex bolt

@BeatDGameMC No, you can't use it with Hex Bolt because it doesn't "thwart". You can only use it with Clear the Area or just your basic thwart action.

That's more than enough though to be able to regularly trigger it.

What is the Wiccan interaction with her kit, other than doing more of the same (discard for bonus)?

@Dragonclaw You can modulate it with her crest or reroll it with her hero power. Plus you can use Heimdall to put a high boost card on top.

It isn't super relevant, but it's enough to make Wiccan slightly better than in a different deck. And Wiccan is a pretty strong ally as is. Even if you just hit 1 boost icon each activation he's still 2 cost to thwart 3 and deal 3.

Great Deck! I tested it dual and solo, both times very smooth. Sometimes a guard minion can screw you up (looking at you Hydra Soldier). I replaced Heimdall with War Machine. I like his versatility more.

I don't like the grey only decks, but this approach is very handy. I found it very interesting, that Scarlet Witch on her own kit doesn't need much setup. This changes imho with this build, but if something goes wrong she can come out swinging.

@L3w15 7Did you consider Spider-Man as an ally? He is quite much on the hype train.

@DualPlayer Remember with guard minions that hex bolt doesn't attack so can get around them if need be. Funnily enough when I played against Kang he brought out two copies temporal shield. I got around it by just killing him with multiple copies of hex bolt instead!

With Spiderman I did originally test him (and lockjaw and warmachine). Ultimately I cut all of them. Typically you only really want 1 ally our per turn and the rest of your hand just wants to be hex bolts, clear the areas and turn the tides to combo off. With the large amount of draw I found I didn't need to play as many allies so I cut the weaker ones. Spiderman was the last one to get cut. He's definitely good, I just think he slightly misses out.

Really nice and fun to play deck. I built it yesterday and crushed Kang in solo game. Then, my girlfriend used it in a two players game where I was playing Black Panther leadership and also crushed Kang. We started last round with Kang standing at 12 live. We keep counting to see how many damage we can deal, and its final HP were -42. Also we cleared the plan, and defeated 2 minions (one of them a tyranosaur). Is so great to draw 10-12 cards, play 2 hex bolts and 2 molecular decay in the same round. Great job with this deck !!!

@wehehe

That sounds awesome! Glad you enjoyed it!

@L3w15 7Thank you, I missed that point with Hex Bolt. I played vs Kang together with my wife and she killed him very easily. With the current card pool I can’t see any room for improvement. Almost a bit frustrating ;)

This deck is ridiculous, Chaos magic is ridiculous, expert Klaw/Kree Fanatic in mp was so easy. I need to test with Ultron, Green Goblin and Zola. But I think I'm gonna quickly switch to heroic even with Kree fanatic set

I don't think Chaos Magic works with Heimdall's effect. You play Heimdall, resolve his text, and then discard the cards you just looked at.

Good work. I just ordered my scarlet witch pack but this is the direction I was thinking I would go in. Justice/ build for sure.

@jojothemighty I think you might be right actually.

It isn't a huge deal though I don't think. When you pay for him properly using 2 double resource cards and a helicarrier then he will still help you set up your first hex bolt.

And when you play him for free it doesn't really matter that he's a vanilla because he's still incredible value.

I hadn't played for a few months, and my second game back was this deck. What a blast! Very fun, extremely effective. Thanks very much for sharing this list.

@L3w15 7 don't you resolve the complete hero action from "chaos magic", before triggering Heimdall's response ability, since it's a response and not an (forced) interrupt? i would play chaos magic, put Heimdall into play and discard 5 cards from the encounter deck. (chaos magic is resolved now). Then i would trigger Heimdall's response ability.

nice write up btw! looking forward to try some of your decks :)

@Sloth Man I had originally assumed that as well as that is more consistent with other games I've played.

I think @Dreadreaper is correct though. You resolve it line by line fully. So the first line is to play the card ignoring its resource cost, and as a result triggering the response effect, and then the second line is to discard the top cards from the deck.

what a fun deck. wiccan is such an insanely good ally for any hero and especially so for Wanda

This deck is a beast. I don't even miss Beat Cop- no one I've played against so far can keep more than one or two threat on a scheme for more than one turn lol

Just beat Ronan Heroic with this deck. Granted I got pretty lucky with molecular decay and wiccan flips but damn it felt good

This Deck Is Beast! However, I find it not very effective in 4 player game in a specific scenario where you need to invest in heavy thwart. But, man I do love this build.

Scarlet Witch is the Chaos queen!

love this deck ..... sooo good

interested to try this out!

is this a rush kind of deck? or can you also play this to control the battlefield? like making sure the minions are always dead before attacking the villain, keeping threat low, or do you need to rush?

@Millenhero I typically play it to control the board. There's plenty of tools to repeatedly keep the threat count at 0 (with clear the area and turn the tide both giving you a good reason to do so).

Generally, the unpredictability of scarlet witch's hex bolts makes a rush tactic unwise in my opinion. Rush tactics work if your deck is capable of throwing all of your resources into damage. But this deck wants to clear everything every turn.

The goal should be to play hex bolts early in the turn and just see what happens. And then based on what's left you decide how best to clean up.

You should be aiming to remove every side scheme and every minion every turn.

There is a copy of #Quincarrier in The Wasp Hero pack, so you don't need to own Black Widow to build this deck as currently listed.

Quincarrier sorry just an fyi

@forcehostage The way the packs required is done is a little unintuitive, but I don't think it's actually incorrect in which packs it lists (though the total doesn't need to be 14).

The only actual packs required are Thor, Doctor Strange, The Rise of Red Skull, Wasp, Scarlet Witch and the core set.

However, all of the required cards from the core set have also been reprinted elsewhere so you could technically obtain all of the cards without owning the core set.

For example, nick fury could be obtained from the core set OR from the Black widow hero pack. That's why it lists "Black Widow / Core set".

How does this deck fair against Ronan? Also, your stats for the games you cleared using this deck... were they done solo, 2p, 3p, 4p, or a mix?

In your opinion, do you think this deck plays best solo, or some other player count? Or equally well in either solo or mp?

Very much looking forward to trying this! Thanks for this build! SW is one of my favorite marvel characters, but I can't deck build outside of a paper bag!

@L3w15 7 Ok, I just tried this deck against Rhino Expert (solo) Legions of Hydra. He did a total of 1 damage during the entire game and I don't think he ever had more than 3 threat on the main scheme at a time (often at 0 threat).

Those hex bolts...so much stun locking. And the incredibly fast set up (I think I had something like, Sorcerer Supreme + Quincarrier on the first turn, then the Helicarrier + SW Circlet on the second turn!).

Thanks again, so much fun!

Have you tried the deck against the expert GMW campaign?

Cool deck. My only but is that you use Sorcerer Supreme... Dr. Strange does not approve!

@Yepesnopes It isn't really designed to be thematic. It's just designed to be good. Sorcerer supreme is a good card that Scarlet Witch is allowed to play since she has the mystic trait.

I know, I know :)

Now, If I don't want to play with Sorcerer Supreme, which card would you put in the deck instead?

Great deck. Thanks for sharing... it plays so differently, makes you think, and makes you look at each scenario in a different light.

@L3w15 7 Just out of curiosity, do you think this deck plays better in solo or MP? It feels like Hex Bolt + Crest is better in solo? (ie, both confusing and stunning villain in one turn). I'm debating who to take for my first GMW attempt.

@Yepesnopes Honestly there isn't an 'obvious' replacement. I would probably go with something like Spiderman (miles Morales). He's a very strong ally, and if you're taking out sorcerer supreme then you'd want to add in another basic card to make sure power in all of us still has enough targets.

@KillerKlaw75 I built it primarily for solo so that's what I would say it's best at. It does a bit of everything and it does it all well. There's no reason you couldn't play it in multiplayer too though. Either way, the deck should play well against GMW.

Awesome! this deck is totally awesome!!! Thanks! I'm having a lot of fun with it!

I think this deck needs an update with: One Way or another card.

@sedlak87

It absolutely does need an update yes. One way or another is definitely a strong option for this deck - but regardless zone of silence is an autoinclude.

I have added three copies of One Way or Another to this deck and have add crazy success with it. Adding to her cycling and thwarting ability really opens up the board state. Super card!

@L3w15 7 I was thinking about dropping Mockingbird and Nick Fury to add 2 copies of One Way or Another. Just wanted to hear your thoughts on that?? Cheers!

@LordVader13 Cutting allies probably is the most reasonable way to go. Personally I think Heimdall and wiccan might be the better initial cut, but there's not much in it.

If you're making changes don't forget to also add in Zone of Silence because there is 0 reason for that card not to be in any mystic justice deck.

@L3w15 7 After I posted my comment yesterday and logged off I was like why would I cut Nick over Heimdall? I was just to lazy to log back in and update it LOL. I do think I will go for cutting Mockingbird over Wiccan though, I really like his ability.

As for Zone of Silence, I will have to wait on that one.... I don't own MTS yet :(

Thanks for your insight. This deck is one of my favorites and have been playing it for a while :)

@L3w15 7 bro, your deck is awesome and your advice is more than welcome... do we have consensus on which cards to remove to make room for One way Or another( how many?) AND Zone of silence?

Maybe could be worth cutting both copies of 'the power in all of us' to make space for some of the new cards? Especially if heimdell is also one of the suggested cuts. You still have chaos magic and the standard double resources to get out the big support cards. The extra draw potential from one way or another should make up for it also.

@L3w15 7 This deck is nothing short of amazing! I absolutely love it! I bought the Scarlet Witch pack recently and never expected to have so much fun playing her.

I steamrolled (all solo play) all the core set villains on expert, the Wrecking Crew and Kang never stood a chance. I had some trouble with Zola in RotRS, but still beat him on the first try in the expert campaign. The Mutagen Formula was the only scenario I lost as I got overwhelmed with goblin minions all at once, but routed him on the second attempt, as I did with Risky Business.

Really looking forward to unleashing this deck on new villains/scenarios when I get them.

Thanks for sharing it. Definitely has my vote for its spot in the MCDB Hall of Fame! :)

Great deck! Thank you. Used this deck to try to "ge the hang" of SW. Was a lot of fun. Once you get your board state set up, you have massive turns with lots of cards. Thanks!

Finally got around to updating this. Commenting here as I know some people were asking about changes.

@L3w15 7 nice additions! 42 cards is fine, and this deck allows to draw a lot so I don't think you lose significant efficiency. Thanks for keeping it updated!

Love your deck, always fun. Regarding the latest changes, I am thinking you might drop the The Power in All of Us as they only interact now with Fury and the supports. Any thoughts on replacing them?

@Raiden I would strongly avoid removing any double resource cards. If the ratios aren't right in terms of numbers of 2+ cost basics, then I would sooner add more 2+ basics than remove the double resource cards.

This deck is designed to see a lot of cards in a single turn in order to pull off as many strong combinations as possible. The double resource cards are where the real value comes in.

Draw power is only good if it actually draws you to something - the resource cards are your power cards that you want to see as much as possible each turn.

So yeah, I understand the point that you're making - but I would solve it differently. If you keep playing and find that you keep drawing power in all of us without any card to spend it on, then maybe swap wiccan back out for mockingbird or something similar.

I think that Multitasking makes a better partner for One Way or Another than Clear the Area, so I´d suggest to make room for it maybe dropping Under Surveillance and one copy of Clear the Area which is more situational. Regarding allies, I find Ironheart weak, and if you consider to include Eros, then there is a nice sinergly between Problem Solvers, Chaos Magic and One Way or Another, using Eros and the Witch for a thwart of 4 on every plan. It works wonders in multiplayer, in solo play could make up for a single copy in heavy drawing deck like this with a couple copies of One Way or Another. I am very fond of Wraith for controlling the board especially when playing with normal II and expert II encounter sets, but I understand it is difficult to find room for it despite of it being insubstantial. Nice deck :)

@Alexin It's definitely true that multitasking has better synergy with one way or another. However, I think clear the area has much better synergy with the deck overall. Typically the deck clears the main scheme every round, and that enables both clear the area and turn the tide.

I think changing the deck as far as you're suggesting would be enough to consider it a completely different deck. I wouldn't cut clear the area without also cutting turn the tide and I consider those 2 of the best cards in the deck.

Also, with regards to iron heart, I think that card is absolutely fantastic. It typically thwarts 1, and blocks a full villain attack whilst replacing itself in hand and digging you deeper. What's not to love?

Thanks for your reply @L3w15 7 and all respect to your work, I think it´s great deck you´ve put your thoughts and ideas into. I guess my tweaks are more headed towards multiplayer (I do most of my play with a couple friends) that is so different from solo play.

All allies are good and can do a minimum of an attack / thwart plus a block to a villain attack (save it comes with brutality, which happens so often in expert II and normal II sets), I am just not very fond of Ironheart. The deck already draws a lot of cards, so I´d would go with an ally doing someting else, such as Wraith.

As I said, it´s matter of playstyle and details here and there. I´d rather have Clear the Area and Multitasking over Clear the Area and Turn the Tide, because I feel it helps me better to control the board, but yours is a very solid choice. I just tested it against The Hood in Normal II / Expert II solo and destroyed him before first cycle of encounter deck. Grats on the deck again and keep up the good work =)

For the record this deck still kicks ass. IMO the best in the game....

Hi can't beat standard kang with this deck, I get to kangIII but no joy after 6 attempts. Any tips?

If you make it to Kang 3 but then lose then my advice would be to make sure you are in a strong set up position before you flip him to Kang 3.

For example, you could avoid killing the 2nd Kang until you make sure you have all your supports/upgrades out, scarlet witch has tough (via a hex bolt) and make sure you have an ally or two ready to block.

I got kang the end cheers. But now struggling against expert Klaw. Finding it hard as he gets so many minions out.

@Greenhobbit Turn the tide is excellent at clearing minions, and if you are playing 2 hex bolt every turn you should hit some 0 boost icons to get some damage off of the 6 encounter cards you discard.

Obviously if the minion has 7+ health you might need to be using molecular decay instead, but this isn't typically as efficient as hex bolt or turn the tide.

Firstly I gotta say how much I love this deck. I play it with 40 cards by dropping 1 clear the area and 1 turn the tide, and it still works flawlessly, but secondly;

Try running this deck through the Rise of the Red Skull campaign. It's beyond hilarious. You firstly grab the Basic Thwart Upgrade upgrade, then at Taskmaster's you can easily nab all the 0 cost allies with One Way or Another and the ability to cycle the encounter deck quickly and they're all about twice as good in this deck, since you turn it around so quickly, where you pretty much have all three of them on board all the time, no matter how wasteful you get with them. And to add, Zola is kind enough to permanently take away your Quicksilver whom you pretty much never play. If you want to add to the hilarity, the rules allow you to toss out two more allies between games instead of Clear the Area and Turn the Tide.

At any rate, it was a fun heroic campaign clear!

This deck is pretty fun. However, I play mostly in three player games and I find that Clear the Area just isn't potent enough when threat and schemes start stacking up, especially with One Way Or Another being used. I'm going to start shopping for a replacement. Anyone have any suggestions that might have some good synergy here?

@Puffendorf That sounds pretty hilarious. I haven't played this deck against taskmaster since adding one way of another but it does sound kind of funny.

@Smoothjedi I think the most obvious replacement for clear the area is probably multitasking. I will also say though your reasoning for cutting clear the area could probably also be applied to turn the tide. If you are at a higher player count perhaps turn the tide is worth cutting as well.

Would you say adding Deft Focus would be beneficial to this deck?

@andizzy Deft focus is definitely a solid card to consider in this deck. You should always have at least 1 hex bolt in your hand each turn so it realistically is just a 1 cost helicarrier.

@L3w15 7 thanks! actually proba bly not great, i thought molecular decay was also a superpower, but sadly not =[

@andizzy I wouldn't worry too much about molecular decay, it's not a card you're super eager to play. Hex bolt is the card you want to be playing every time you draw it. With 4 copies of hex bolt and all of the draw cards I think you should still have enough targets for deft focus.

For me - one of strongest deck (if not the strongest one)!

@wojciech Thank you - I do agree that this deck is incredibly strong!

This deck is madness omg. I've beaten Green Goblin at Heroic 2 with one left hand! This deck draws 10+ cards per turn and deals tons of damage. The threat never raised above 5.

This chick is crazy! On turn one, I cleared a side scheme, put Nick Fury and Quicksilver into play, and was able to place down the Avengers Mansion, Skilled Investigator, her Crest, and Agatha. Oh, and I hit Red Skull for four damage. Damn!!!!

Maybe using Blindhold instead of Heimdall. Easier to spell and you can shuffle for preparing your hex bolt.

@SpiderPK For sure blindfold is a better overall card than Heimdall, and definitely a worthwhile candidate to consider as a replacement.

It's a minor shame blindfold isn't able to reorder the deck, but overall her effect is better and she's cheaper as well. Shame she's not basic to synergise with the power of everything, but the fact that she's 2 cheaper than Heimdall makes up for that.

I kid you not, I defeated Expert Zola in two turns with this deck. Got a lucky pull of 0 cost allies (freed all during Taskmaster fight) on the first turn and was able to get him out of the picture on the second turn. Never seen anything like that. Could not be stopped on second run either - the encounter deck was already out, might as well play another round. Effortlessly beat Expert RoRS. So fun!

Maybe add endurance because Wanda has only a recover of 3.